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Thu, 12 Dec 2010:
http://nsmb.com/4082-must-ride-in-rain/
Must Ride In Rain
Fri, 10 Dec 2010:
http://www.newwest.net/topic/article/reflections_on_wilderness_and_mountain_biking/C564/L564/:
By Pragmatist, 12-10-10
Geo, thanks for your response. We're going to have to agree to disagree. If you spend any time around serious mountain bikers (as opposed to the type who happen to have a mountain bike in the basement and ride it on a dirt road or easy trail every couple of weeks or less often), you'll learn that our bicycle is integral to our reason for being. It's a whole lifestyle and a passion, not just a hobby like stamp-collecting, model trains, or ferret ownership. This may seem odd or foolish to you, but it's a fact. And it's why the argument we can always walk in Wilderness won't persuade us. Actually, I have done a lot of walking in Wilderness. It's not the same thing at all; it offers nice scenery but little personal challenge and relatively minimal physical fitness benefits.
Fri, 10 Dec 2010:
From: "Mark Kintz" <mark@fc-cpa.com>
To: "'Monterey Off-Road Cycling Association \(MORCA\)'"
<morca@googlegroups.com>
Cc: "'Morgan, Eric'" <Eric_Morgan@ca.blm.gov>
Subject: [morca] Trailwork Report
Before dusk last night I rode out to see how the
Burmese and 49/50 trailwork is proceeding. The Burmese/Barloy junction
has been contoured to prevent further erosion and work on the flats continues.
I'm happy to report that work on both sides of
Trail 49 and Trail 50 is done. Both trails have been re-cut and dragged to
re-establish the bench width and outslope.
Like when these trails were first built, it's
going to take a few days for natural settling/compaction to take place before
the trails are rideable. This morning's unexpected rain is a huge stroke of
good-fortune to that end.
Both Trail 49's and 50's are closed for a few
days to allow the sandy soil to compact. "Closed" signs are
placed at all of the trailheads, and the BLM staff asks for our patience in the
meantime.
After all of the recent unhappy outcry about the
Thankgiving weekend event, it would be a sad irony if impatient locals
jumped-the-gun and in doing so, re-cut the center groove that made this trail
work necessary [proof that mountain biking destroys trails and makes trail work
necessary. Mike].
Let's allow this Christmas gift to stay wrapped
under the tree for a few days!
MK
Sat, October 31, 2009:
Bike rides with Ben Kurtz (left) always seemed to end at the hospital. Peter Frick-Wright (right) was the one who crashed after this photo at Newberry Crater.
Tue, 30 Nov 2010:
Fort Ord and the locals that love it....
Over the weekend, the rain fell and the locals in Toro
Park/Salinas rushed in to fill ruts and smooth the bumps from the winter in
Fort Ord.. Well, the rain hadn't even stopped and Ord was overtaken by 2 ton
post hole diggers by the dozens.. yes horses.. We've all seen pictures of
people on horses from the weekend by now, but when is enough enough?
Going back to when Francois was in town over the weekend, this thread stopped
my heart from beating.. and of course the anger flows like the mighty Miss'..
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=669370
I mean, the backs of the secret [i.e., illegal. Mike] trail crews still
ache, and all that work for what? When does BLM break the news that they love
horses and not just mountain bikers? It's embarassing that a website like
mtbr.com broadcasts the drama between the trail users in our area when it
should be celebrated. And I for one am sorry for that peeps..
Anyway, I don't know the author of this letter personally, but good on you dude
for saying something... the whole mtbr world now hears your woes..
http://www.montereyherald.com/letter...nclick_check=1
Thanks to the trail ninjas hiding in the trees with pick-axes and shovels,
working the soil and saying F- the BLM and their "trail plans".. the
locals appreciate you, the goat trail appreciates you, and I appreciate you!
Thanks and Hell Yeah Foo (HYF)-
TWM.
Sun, 14 Nov 2010:
From: Paul Nam <vocinam@yahoo.com>
Subject: [ROMP] Henry W. Coe trail work and 100 mile Coe ride [Try WALKING that
far in a day! This shows how much greater mountain biking’s impacts are than
hiking’s. Mike]
To: mtb-romp@googlegroups.com
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It was a remarkable 2nd Saturday trail work day in Coe.
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=665755
We "finished" our work on Hoover Lake Trail. The area around Hoover
Lake is a sort of hub in the middle of the park on a high plateau which
contains an air-strip. It here that some of the best wildflower displays can be
found on any given spring. The Hoover lake Trail combined with the White Tank
Trail makes for a nice 3 mile single-track experience.
Thanks to ROMP and the PRA for helping pay for the snacks and refreshments!
More remarkable were the three riders (regular Coe trail work volunteers who
skipped the trail work on Saturday) who embarked on The Hard COEre 100. This is
a hundred miles of Henry W. Coe and 20,000 feet of climbing. They completed it!
They began at 12:00 am Saturday morning and returned at around 21:20 pm on
Saturday evening.
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=665755
I believe this is the longest ride in Coe, ever.
-Paul
May, 2003:
http://bb.nsmb.com/showthread.php?t=134094&page=18
Mr(Matthew)Bond (a Director of the NSMBA):
No, contrary to the beliefs of some, heavily eroded and chewed up chunder sections do not get reclaimed by the forest if people stop riding on them. They have eroded so much that they are now a watercourse, and require a significant amount of effort to decommission properly to prevent further erosion. … The trails we now ride are heavily eroded because they are too steep, weren't built with sustainability in mind, and were not constructed to handle the current level of traffic they receive.
Mon, 18 Oct 2010:
Subject: [morca] FW: 2010 Fall/Winter Mountain Biking Marin
From: "Henrietta Stern" <Henri@mpwmd.dst.ca.us>
To: "Monterey Off-Road Cycling Association \(MORCA\)" <morca@googlegroups.com>
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FYI-- re rides as well as deals on bike shoes and
bikes
From: Mountain Biking
Marin [mailto:celiag@mountainbikingmarin.com]
Sent: Monday, October 18, 2010 3:26 PM
To: Henrietta Stern
Subject: 2010 Fall/Winter Mountain Biking Marin
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Mountain
Biking Marin
The Ultimate Bike Experience
October 2010
Hi Henrietta,
Fall is here and winter is very close so the raining season is about to start.
But don't let the rain shy you away from the trails and your mountain
bike. You can ride Marin trails all year long! Ride in between storms, or
wear rain gear to ride under the water drops, or ride a single speed! And look
for the trails and fire roads that drain better to avoid muddy conditions (it's
good for the trails and for your bike). Elderidge and Old Rail Road in
Mt. Tam, Marincello and Old Spring in the Headlands and some trails in China
Camp are good to ride during the raining season.
Our private clinics and tours are available throughout the whole year but our
group clinics will resume next year in the Spring around March 2011. Stay
tuned!
See you on the
soon to be wet trails!
Sincerely,
Celia Graterol
Founder
Mountain Biking Marin
Sun, 17 Oct 2010:
http://www.nsnews.com/travel/Ensure+mountain+access/3683745/story.html
Ensure mountain access for all
By Dave Norona, Special To North Shore NewsOctober 17, 2010
As an adventure athlete, I spend a great deal of my time outdoors.
Heck, it was my reason for moving to the North Shore in 1990 since my home in
Kerrisdale was just too far from the heavenly local mountains.
Ever since moving to the Shore I've spent countless hours exploring the trails
on cross-country skis, running shoes and my mountain bike. I've also spent a
lot of time paddling the many nooks and crannies along the waterline below the
mountains. It's all been amazing and I continue to meet so many incredible
people out and about having a great time.
To me the mountains are for everyone, not just locals or one specific user
group, they belong to us all. It doesn't matter if you live here or not, the
mountains are for anyone interested in heading out and exploring them.
There are a few people out there though who don't want to share the mountains
with others. They have been called NIMBYs (Not in my backyard) and rightfully
so. They complain that certain user groups destroy habitats, destroy the trails
and, in effect, destroy the forest or the mountain experience. Again, the
mountains belong to everyone. First off, it doesn't matter if you walk, jog,
bike or horseback ride, every one of us destroys the trails. All trails start
to erode at some point. On the North Shore, this is due to the soft terrain and
the wicked rain we get that washes down the loose soil. So, the question is,
should we build trails for hikers, bikers, cross-country skiers, snowshoers,
and ski and snowboarders?
In my opinion, the answer to this question is a resounding yes. Having trails
throughout the North Shore mountains allows people to experience nature. It
allows them to get away from the city and enjoy time with their kids and
significant others.
The value of these trails is very significant. Just check out the trails on any
given weekend and see how many families are out enjoying them, whether on the
Grouse Grind, Baden Powell, Rice Lake or the numerous mountain bike trails on
Cypress, Seymour and Fromme.
Trails have also brought user groups together. The North Shore Mountain Bike
Association, for instance, has been a world leader in creating new trails and
fixing them up before they erode (??) so more users can enjoy them. The new
work on the Grouse Grind is also a perfect example of how we can repair and
design trails so that they don't erode and that trail is widely used every
summer.(Why do they have to keep "repairing" the Grouse Grind, every
couple years, if it doesn't erode?)
I'm not suggesting that we should build trails everywhere; however, the trails
on the North Shore mountains take up such a small percentage of the overall
land. By working and enjoying the trails together we can all learn a little
more about Mother Nature and do it in the many ways we all enjoy!
Adventurer Dave Norona reminds everyone to share the trails and leave your
non-sharing ideas back in the cave from which you crawled out of! His daily
adventures are supported by PowerBar, Marin Bikes and Merrell.
I fired off a letter to the editor, keeping it as short and sweet as I could
muster...;)
Dear Editor:
My goodness, what bee flew into Dave Norona's full-face helmet? He literally
bristles with vitriol inside his latest column, "Ensure mountain access
for all" (October 17, 2010). But is he really insisting that we should
also have to allow "access" for every kind of machine someone chooses
to bring into the mountains? His uncivil jab at so-called NIMBYs with his
comment, "...leave your non-sharing ideas back in the cave from which you
crawled out of!" clearly exposes Norona's bad attitude towards those of us
who may not agree with him and his fellow adventurers.
Oh, Dave Norona can wag his finger at inclement weather riding, debunk habitat
destruction, while suggesting trails should not be built
"everywhere", etc. But the truth is, Norona has long felt that
the restrictions that get in the way of his ultimate adventure high, whether on
a mountain bike, motor bike, snowmobile, etc, do not apply to him. He has even
written of his rule-bending antics in past columns! I have to question why the
North Shore News continues to keep this highly offensive scofflaw on their
payroll?
Monica Craver
(Want to wager a bet that the North Shore News will publish my letter, but may
omit the second paragraph, altogether? -- this newspaper is notorious for its
hack and slash editing)
Sun, 2 Oct 2010:
http://bb.nsmb.com/showthread.php?t=136486&page=4:
Is this a problem with teh culture of mountainbiking, that it revolves around instant gratification and that not enough people care enough about the forest, the trails and the rest?
Mon, 13 Sep 2010:
From: "voiceux" <bmarshall3rd@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: behavior problems at St Edward State Park
It amazes me that people think rules don't apply to them. I hope the rangers
are addressing the walkers with off leash dogs in there, too, since I run
across this pretty much every time I'm there (a couple of times a week). I grit
my teeth and smile and say thank you as I pass. I do wonder at the likelihood
of people who flaunt park rules being a member of EMBA. It seems unlikely there
are the sort who join a group like ours.
Sat, 11 Sep 2010:
From: "mwestra2" <mwestra2@yahoo.com>
Subject: Destruction at Duthie -- New Drop Zone & Beginner StepUps Closed
[mountain bikers even destroy trails built by other mountain bikers! Mike]
Sometime Thurs afternoon a couple of kids destroyed the new beginner step-ups
and built their own steeper/bigger lip. So Nolan, Ralph, Kevin & I spent
our time yesterday fixing that mess -- instead of building something new. Total
waste of time and money that could have been put to better use... all for a few
spoiled little brats' few minutes of fun.
With all the new dirt, we have to close the line until we get another wet
followed by dry period. Hopefully we'll have it re-opened by next weekend.
Please spread the word that it's closed.
Help us put a stop to this crap. If you were riding Duthie on Thursday
afternoon and saw anything, please contact me or Kevin. When we find out who
did it, we're going to turn it over to King County. In the future, if you see
anyone building on a jump line and you don't recognize them, please ask them
who they are. Take pictures if you're suspicious. Or call me or Kevin.
Doing this on a beginner line is pretty serious. Several riders I talked to who
it hit Thursday evening said it bucked them by surprise. This is the single
biggest threat to Duthie.
And it's not just misdemeanor vandalism... when it "knowingly and without
authority interferes with any property in a manner so as to endanger
others", it can become criminal damage to property.
We'll get signs up, we'll do better locking up the tools, we've added pavers to
the lip to make it more difficult to mess with. We'll keep on it, but we need
your help to keep an eye out for this kinda #$%**! Thanks
Wed, 8 Sep 2010:
To: mountain bike <BBTCmembers@yahoogroups.com>
From: Tom Fitzpatrick <t-cfitz2@comcast.net>
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Subject: behavior problems at St Edward State Park
Tonight I attended a meeting at the park and afterward the Ranger pulled me
aside to mention two problems that are rapidly becoming serious in his view.
First, some party or parties unknown started building unauthorized trails in a
big way in the northwest corner of the park, starting off Arrowhead Trail. It
appears they are using a chainsaw or other power equipment. The staff promises
severe sanctions when he/they are caught.
Second, mountain bike riders have been violating two laws relating to dogs in
the park: they're running them off-leash, and they're not picking up their
messes. The Ranger has written 8 tickets so far this month.
The Ranger says if these behaviors continue, it could jeopardize our access to
the park's trails. Saint Edward State Park was one of our first success stories
in the metro area back in the early 1990s working with land managers to resolve
user conflicts and maintain mountain bike access to a heavily used trail
system. Speaking only for myself, if I find out who's building the rogue trails
here, I'll turn them in.
Tom Fitzpatrick
Fri, 20 Aug 2010:
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From: Tom C <thomasmail360@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Rogue Trail Builders (long)
The Newberry Hill Heritage Park in Kitsap County is a great example of what can
be accomplished when a group of volunteers is willing to work hard and
cooperate with a municipality to create a public recreation site.
Mountain bikers, horsemen, hikers, trail-runners, students, and several
community groups have begun to craft the 1100 acres of forest and wetlands into
an accessible sanctuary just minutes from Silverdale. A stewardship group is
leading this effort. For the past year, we have been working with county parks
and recreation staff conducting public meetings to assess people’s concerns and
interests for the park. We are juggling the desires of many user groups with
the restrictions placed upon the property by the county, the Department of Fish
and Wildlife, the Recreation and Conservation Office, local tribes, and the
Central Kitsap School District, which has a secondary school in the middle of
the park.
Part of our success is a result of our willingness to work honestly and
collegially with the land manager, Kitsap County. We have agreed to get prior
permission from the county for all planning and construction of trails, and we
are dedicated to following IMBA standards.
On Wednesday, one of our stewards came upon a group of four mountain bikers
with hand tools. He identified himself as a park steward and asked them what
they were doing, and they replied, “We’re building a jump. They kicked us out
of Banner Forest, so we’re going to make our stuff here.”
This kind of rogue trail building reflects poorly upon all mountain bikers.
Some of my fellow stewards even asked me if I were a part of it. Much of the
conflict between user groups on the trails we ride results from a few “bad
eggs” unwilling to participate in an open, public dialogue, which is admittedly
sometimes slow and frustrating. However, a public park is like a good marriage;
you don’t always get everything your way, but in the end, the result is often a
beautiful synergy, a whole greater than the sum of its parts.
IMBA recommends adequate signage or split trails to accommodate riders with
varied skill levels on trails with challenging elements. If the bikers building
these elements want them legitimately included in the park, they need to do so
by getting involved in the stewardship group. They need to attend meetings and
join the trail committee. They need to sit at the table with all the other park
users and reach some sort of agreement. Maverick bikers who just go out with
tools and build unauthorized trails or elements create waves of conflicts.
At this point, we’re faced with the daunting task of constructing and
maintaining miles of trails for the park and at the same time deconstructing
and closing trails made by pirate builders. These guys know we don’t have
enough time to undo everything they’re building while simultaneously trying to
create a park that meets the needs of a larger community. It is selfish, lazy,
and cowardly of them to not address the stewardship group with their desires
and to try to reach a compromise that accommodates everyone’s needs as best as
possible.
I encourage all mountain bikers to check with land managers or stewardship
groups before working on public or private property. Often, the unauthorized
work will affect many more people and user groups than imagined, and it
reflects poorly on all of us.
Tom Coleman, President, Newberry Hill Heritage Park Stewardship Group
Sat, 25 Sep 2010:
Mountain biking at night is scary-good, just don't forget your lumens
Published: Friday, September 24, 2010, 7:44 PM Updated: Saturday, September 25, 2010, 8:17 AM
Peter Frick-Wright, Special to The
Oreg...
If you haven't been playing outside in the dark lately, you have
no idea what you have been missing. Turn down the lights on your favorite
outdoor sport, and everything becomes slightly more difficult and slightly more
fun. On a bike, every rock and root gives an extra pop of adrenaline. On a
hike, each snapping twig is attention-worthy as animals feel comfortable
getting slightly closer. Darkness heightens your senses, sharpens your nerves
and makes you feel more alive. And isn't that why you went outside in the first
place?
Mountain biking at night
We've been mountain biking at night before, just never on purpose. For more
rides than I'd like to admit, Kyle Anderson and I overestimated the daylight
and ended our ride zipping down hazardous single-track back to the car in the
dark.
We started to joke about bringing headlamps next time, but then we'd forget.
And then we'd get kind of mad about forgetting.
We rode the Syncline trails in the Columbia River Gorge without being able to
see upcoming corners and abandoned the McKenzie River Trail three miles from
the bottom when it became safer to ride on the highway shoulder than between
invisible trees. A few weeks later, at a pitch-black Post Canyon in Hood River,
we found ourselves shouting into the darkness to scare away what was probably a
Sasquatch.
It wasn't until a ride near Mount Hood, when we tried to squeeze an extra lap
into an afternoon on the Sandy Ridge trails, that night mountain biking became
fun for Kyle and me. Already familiar with the trail, we found that in the
darkness we didn't brake for what we couldn't see and that if we just leaned
back and let our suspension handle the bumpy ride, we would make it over most
obstacles anyway. The trail became more challenging and more fun; adrenaline
flooded our bodies in above-average quantities.
Tonight, we've come to the trails near Rocky Butte Road in
Scappoose intending to ride in the dark, looking for that same thrill. The sun
is going down and we've already done a lap to get the lay of the land -- all
that's left now are narrow switchbacks through tight trees and blind corners on
a twisting trail that, we're now realizing, is much tighter, more twisted and
much darker than anything we've ever ridden at night before.
Night biking grew out of the adventure racing, where competitors run, climb,
bike and hike often for 24 hours or more.
"As the technology has progressed, it has opened the door to a lot of
people," said Mike Ely of Nite Rider bike lights of San Diego. "The
original bike lighting systems were halogen, and they were pretty inefficient.
Now, the lights are LEDs, and the batteries are lithium-ion." Lighting
technology improved as competitors looked for smaller, brighter lights, and
some bikers eventually decided they'd rather go out for a fun night ride than
suffer through an entire adventure race.
We're not looking to suffer either. This time, we tried to come prepared.
Between our bike lights and headlamps, we have the recommended 300 to 400
lumens for single-track, and I'm wearing a T-shirt with a glow-in-the-dark Yoda
on it. But, Ely informed me, there's slightly more to it than that.
When we talked, Ely introduced me to lighting issues I never would have
anticipated. For example, where my original lighting strategy could be summed
up as brighter is better, Ely said that light placement also matters quite a
bit and every choice has its drawbacks.
Helmet-mounted lights reflect off dust and fog straight back into your eyes.
Lights clamped onto handlebars are better in that regard, but they are stuck
following your wheel's direction and can't look ahead to a corner like a
headlamp can.
It's an issue debated in bike shops and on Internet forums, and everyone seems
to have their own pet theory.
One commenter wrote that his best results came from mounting a headlamp at his
waist, by stepping through the elastic bands and wearing it like a jockstrap.
It's a surprisingly lively debate considering that night biking is hardly a
regular weekend activity for most mountain bikers. But Ely said he's not
surprised. "It used to be $300 to $400 for an effective riding light --
now it's 100 to 200 bucks."
And after the first few turns in Scappoose -- with one light clamped to our
handlebars and another strapped to our helmet -- the lights are worth every
penny, or they would be if we weren't borrowing them from my editor. The trail
is already narrow and fun, but ridden at night it shrinks even further, down to
the width of the ball of light out ahead. Roots and rocks are complete
surprises; corners are last-minute decisions; branches whistle by unseen. It
may sound more dangerous, but it makes slower riding feel much faster.
While it feels like we're whipping through the woods at breakneck speeds, we're
probably going about 11 mph. Little boosts into the air feel worthy of
trumpets, and no matter how slowly we go around a tree, there's a sense of
accomplishment for having made it.
It's not until we're nearly back to the car that the dark poses any problem at
all. Hiking up a steep section, Kyle stops, pointing his handlebars out into
the forest. "Did you hear that?" he asks, scanning back and forth.
"That was a Sasquatch."
-- Peter Frick-Wright
Fri, 24 Sep 2010:
Dear Editor:
OK, I will keep this one brief. To Sloan Shoemaker and all Hidden Gems
proponents: Balcony is NOT a new trail. I discovered and rode it 15 years ago,
and only recently have mountain bikers improved it for sustainability. I have
no idea how long it has been there, but I am really sick and tired of all these
“Wilderness” people who actually believe a mountain bike can destroy the life of
an elk or bear any more than a hiker can. “Out of control” community, according
to Shoemaker. All I see as “out of control” is these people's ignorance of
mountain bike ethics and their Puritan outlook on wilderness. Cameras to catch
the witches, squirrel-killers, and bear den raiders, riding our evil
broomsticks through the forsaken wilderness. I suppose, as an Aspen High School
graduate, I have been proudly wearing a Scarlet Letter “A” for about 25 years.
I can't wait to find those cameras to flip a bird at 'em. Now that's
wilderness.
Chris “Dogger” Anderson
Aspen/Fruita
Sun, 11 July 2010:
http://bb.nsmb.com/showthread.php?t=134599
To whoever is ripping down the DNV closed trails signs!!
On our ride up we saw the closed trail signs on jerry rig and pink starfish ripped down and thrown into the bushes, to whoever is stupid enough to do that cut it out its super lame its closed for a reason. Hey I know the DNV isnt in everybodys good books but fromme is gonna get improved and thats a good thing for the mountain. Ripping down closed signs and riding trails like pink starfish when its back under construction is disrespectful there's plenty of trails that you could ride for the time being. Sorry for the long rant but I dont want to see anyone getting hurt on unfinished stunts/trail..
Wed, 23 Jun 2010:
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Subject: RatPac
anybody know if the gate(s) are open and can you shuttle ratpac ?
["Downhill" mountain bikers need someone to carry the to the top of
the hill! And mountain bikers claim not to be lazy?! Mike]
Fri, 18 Jun 2010:
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From: Jack DeGuiseppi <jackd@eskimo.com>
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Subject: Road to sunrise
FYI,
The road to Sunrise is always a fun easy scenic ride to do before they
officially open the road to cars BUT:
Seems that it is closed to bikes most every day between 7:30 and 4:30.
Some friends were riding there on Sunday - went round the gate, saw the
sign (that says closed to bikes) but went ahead anyway -- Sunday and all..
2 miles in they came to a construction worker running a road grader who
asked them, "Didn't you see the sign?" they said they DID see the
sign.
"This road is closed. I am calling the Park police." They dutifully
turned around and road up to White river campground, rode around some more
and went back to their car -- There they were met by a NP Ranger who asked
them if they were the 2 bikers who were on the road. They said yes. He
ended up writing them a $124 ticket(each). No warning.
Lesson learned? -- Don't say you saw the sign. Say "What sign?" When
the cops approach you and ask, "Are you the two bikers who were up the
road?" say, "What road?"
C'mon people - remember your teenage responses and you will probably avoid
a ticket.
Jackd - tongue slightly in cheek
Mon, June 14, 2010:
Ride hard, take chances
Lars Thomsen
owner
Trail Head Cyclery
14390 Union Ave
San Jose, CA 95124
p. (408) 369-9666
f. (408) 369-9630
www.trailheadcyclery.com
[mountain bikers pretend to oppose, but actually excuse, illegal trailbuilding and illegal mountain biking]:
http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=595571
As much as I disrespect vigilante trail building, sometimes its the swift kick in the butt needed to get the powers that be to recognize a problem. I know many will disagree, but you should check out the Freedom Riders movie and see how that turned out.
Tue, Feb 16, 2010:
From: Mark Davidson <mark@mbosc.org>
This is important.
According to Ted Stroll, the latest issue of Outside magazine advocates
lifting the bike ban in Wilderness areas. I recommend that all mountain
bikers interested in protecting the land yet still allow recreational access
advocate ending the bike ban in Wilderness areas.
We have a huge chunk of Wilderness in Big Basin and if it was over turned
then at least there may be the possibility of having some nice connector
trails from the ridge lines down into Waddell Creek. This would give some
alternative coastal access routes. Realistically, this could save a
significant amount of re-routing/re-designation of the McCreary Ridge trail.
Also, as long as bikes are banned from Wilderness many mountain bikers
(myself included) will NEVER advocate for the expansion of Wilderness areas.
If the ban is over turned then I would definitely reconsider my position.
Please consider taking action on this issue.
Thank you.
--Mark
Mon, 8 Feb 2010:
Cc: bbtcmembers@yahoogroups.com
To: anthony@lifetime.oregonstate.edu, Anthony Cree
<anthony.cree@gmail.com>
From: Myers Brian <igobybike@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Trail damage at Tokul
We parked at the roundabout in fall city and pedaled up the SVT to
Griffin and went right up the road as always. There were some big
boulders that had been placed in the middle of the road maybe half way
up, but they where easy to ride around. There were also a few no
trespassing signs, but I didn't see those :) We rode up Mud Hill to
Beer Run to Conspiracy, then back up the road and down Beer Run and
Mud Hill, then across the creek and up into Tokul West.
Brian
Sat, 6 Feb 2010:
[illegal trail construction on the North Shore of Vancouver, BC. Mike] I have a 2 large stringers that need transporting from mystery location X to mystery location Y. With 4 people, the job should take about an hour. Meet at the top of Natural High on Sunday February 7th @ 10:30. I will have the log carriers which makes the job less awkward. I am flexible on the time if it something different works better.
Fri, 29 Jan 2010:
Subject: Re: [morca] Why all the Gravel and work on Ord?
From: Mike Larucci <mikelarucci@gmail.com>
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Now we have BLM patrolling at night to give tickets to night riders. BLM is
ruining this land and taking away our freedom. If a man wants to ride at night,
let him take responsibility for his own injury or demise!!!!!!
Mon, 25 Jan 2010:
To: Enduro <dougwalsh@centurytel.net>
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From: Chelsea McMahon <Chelsea.Mn@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: 2nd bog bridge
[So much for IMBA's rule about not riding under wet conditions! They could
stick to pavement, but they are too selfish to do so. IMBA's "rules"
are just for show, and are universally ignored. Mike]
The only time I was able to ride almost all of the bog was
when we had those
temps in the teens. It was such a thrill to fly through there!
Mon, 25 Jan 2010:
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Subject: Re: 2nd bog bridge
[So much for IMBA's rule about not riding under wet conditions! They could
stick to pavement, but they are too selfish to do so. IMBA's "rules"
are just for show, and are universally ignored. Mike]
No need for a bridge. If you just go really fast and pull
up, you can
make the whole thing.
Brian
Sat, 23 Jan 2010:
From: Ross Finlayson <finlayson@live555.com>
Subject: Your favorite 'midst of the wet season' rides?
[So much for IMBA's rule about not riding under wet conditions! They could stick to pavement, but they are too selfish to do so. IMBA's "rules" are just for show, and are universally ignored. Mike]
At this time of the year (especially during an 'El Nino' winter like this one), we often find ourselves wanting to ride just a couple of days after a major rainy spell. Most of the trails are too muddy to ride, but there are a few trails (mostly fireroads) that hold up OK even after heavy rain.
In the past, my favorite 'midst of the wet season' ride was the main (Aptos Creek) fireroad in Nisene Marks - from Aptos up to Sand Point overlook and back. But even that fireroad often gets very wet.
My new favorite 'midst of the wet season' ride - which I did again today - is at Butano State Park: Up the Butano Fireroad, past the abandoned airstrip, then down Olmo Fireroad, and back along the paved road. This is a 12-mile loop with 2000' of total climbing , and holds up well (especially the Butano Fireroad) even after a long period of heavy rain, such as we had this past week.
So lets hear your favorite 'midst of the wet season' rides?
Ross.
Thu, 7 Jan 2010:
To: mountain bike <bbtcmembers@yahoogroups.com>
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From: raymond hobi <raymondtrainerironmind@yahoo.com>
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Subject: have you ever done this?
This is one of those riding stories that's just too good to keep to myself. So
I was on the road bike doing a training ride. I had just turned right off of
116th (Bellevue) onto Bel-Red Rd. Just before crossing over I-405 I noticed a
sign that read "Sidewalk closed. Use alter-
nate route". When I ride this stretch half the time I stay in the lane
(non rush hour) and the
other half I ride the (seldom if ever used) sidewalk. If I had been riding the
mtn bike I simply
would have jumped off the sidewalk curb (after traffic was clear, of course).
So instead, I
kept riding the sidewalk, looking for the supposed obstruction. Finally, after
about a quarter mile, I saw the "construction" which was a couple of
orange cones placed about
6 feet apart on the sidewalk, but with no obvious signs of any work having been
done
(ie;no holes, the sidewalk was in fact perfectly smooth.....maybe a little TOO
smooth!
Can you guess what happened next? That's right, as my front tire went past the
first cone,
SLOOOSH! it plowed right into WET CEMENT!! Mind you, it sure didn't look wet!
Luckily,
I was only going about walking speed, so I was able to stop before my rear
wheel went in
and I would have had to put my foot down (in the cement). To say the least, I was
just
"slightly" surprised. Now here's my question, don't you think it
would have been prudent
for the work crew who did this to at least put up a little cardboard sign that
said "Wet
Cement"?. For one thing, that's a $600 wheel, and for another, I'm sure
they weren't all
that thrilled when they saw what happened! Now before you guys respond with
something
like, "Well, you shouldn't have been riding on the sidewalk." let me
remind you that I've been riding my bike almost every day for 25 years and I've
never been in an accident involving a vehicle. I think that I'll take my
own advice on where and under what
circumstances I ride, regardless of whether it's "technically"
against the law. I've also
witnessed cyclists going under 10 mph riding right in the middle of the lane on
a busy
street during rush hour and holding up 20 cars making everyone angry. Sure,
it's techni-
cally legal, but is it safe? Just once I'd like to get some replies that
weren't atomatically
negative and smart ass. So give it a shot (if you dare)!