Tue, 1 Dec 2009:

Wed, 16 Dec 2009:
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From: raymond hobi <raymondtrainerironmind@yahoo.com>
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Subject: What trails?

Well, this message board gets pretty bland in the Winter, so I guess it's up to me to "stir
the pot". Every time I get my monthly mag from IMBA, I can't help but think, "Yeah, it's
O.K. what they're doing for mtn. biking and all, but why in the hell do we need an "inter-
national organization" to (mainly) fight for trail access rights. I mean, don't we already
own the national forests? Who has the right to say that certain trails can only be used
for this and that, but not the other? It doesn't make sense when you think about it. Even
on the trails that allow mtn biking, who ends up doing all the clearing of treefall every Spring? It certainly isn't the forest service (not that I've seen, anyway!). I liked it better in
the "old days". When I started mtn biking, there was no such thing as an "off limit" trail.
There simply was a trail, and you rode it. And there was non of this "trail manners" either.
You just blew by hikers like they were standing still. By the time they knew what hit them,
you were long gone! You know this trail access issue is mostly political whe they allow
horses on trails but not bicycles. I mean, have you ever riden a popular horse trail during
the rainy season (like now). Those hoves put divits in the mud that are 3-6" deep, over and
over. Not to mention trying to ride around the "piles". As far as I know, (most) mtn bikers
don't crap in the middle of the trail. And they don't weigh 600-1,000 pounds. I just got through writing an e mail to IMBA. I said the solution to trail access is easy. I'll just do
what we've been doing for 25 years, which is to put on the night gear and go out at 2am.
Never had a problem!

Thu, Dec 10, 2009:

What happens if you tell the truth about mountain biking:

http://www.biketriad.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=39&func=view&catid=2&id=9735

"That dude sounds like a total douchebag! With almost 7billion people on this planet this asshat is worried about what mountain biking does!. Sound like a case of we need to take this guy around back good ole country boy style. Effing idiot!"

Thu, Dec 3, 2009:

You're not willing to compromise. You're just looking for excuses as to why mountain biking should be banned from the trails it was born on. So, you can keep your extreme view going, while the rest of us will simply use good ol' civil disobedience and not respect those unjust rules.

Tue, 1 Dec 2009:
Subject: [morca] full moon lights out ride
From: papa-g <gacourtright@sbcglobal.net>
To: "Monterey Off-Road Cycling Association (MORCA)" <morca@googlegroups.com>
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Being that tomorrow is the first bike ride that I will be on in about
a month, I would be glad to ride sans illumination...It will help
conceal more poor bike handling skills!

Gary

On Nov 30, 8:48 pm, ken <kcconstruction@comcast.net> wrote:
> Darius and I have been riding totally in the dark every now and then.
> FO is a great place to try it since the trails look white at night.
> Full moon is here, who wants to come try total darkness? You'll need
> to have your lights with you and we'll see how far you can go lights
> out.
> Its just our way to show we care about the nocturnal wild life ;)
> Ken

[What happens when you criticize mountain biking, as Ed Dolan has done:]

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